Just had quite a long (somewhat circular) debate with Amy about what is important, and because (I think) we both have different opinions on what is important it didn’t really go anywhere other than me getting more pissed off at myself for not doing enough about what I care about.
The argument was somehow related to the fact that I care about saving animals and plants over saving people - and I guess I should qualify that; I mean, I don’t want anyone to die, but somehow, I’m conflicted in that I know its people and people alone that cause the death and destruction of the environment and hence .. somehow I care less about them.
So the battle in my head goes something like this:
People stuff the environment up.
People kill animals.
People destroy everything.
People can’t even be content with each other let alone other species.
There are too many people on the planet.
I don’t want anyone to die.
So what can happen?
People could stop breeding?!
Or we could stop curing diseases (but then people die, and I don’t really want that - if it were me I wouldn’t want it so I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone else, right?)
People dont get on with each other so i suppose wars will eventually sort that out. Or nuclear melt downs. Both are more and more inevitable (the nukes cos of reactors, the wars because people are becoming more stupid, see below).
Draw a line under that one for now, because thats just part of the battle.
———— < theres a line.
Ok, so now what about the big companies that both kill people (indirectly, or through negligence (for example by filling us with chemicals, cos it makes a profit)) and destroy the environment/animals/plants.
How can we stop supporting them?
We stop buying from them!
But… if ‘nice’ companies like Body Shop get bought out by ‘evil’ people like Loreal, then … that will keep happening because everyone has their price, so eventually we won’t be able to buy anything (if following morals, you don’t buy from ‘evil’ people i mean)…
This isn’t a bad thing really cos if we all lived at a subsistence level then we’d all get by and stuff.
We’d probably be bored though, so no one will bother.
That and a thousand other things prevent this happening realistically.
If _I_ care, yet I don’t wholly commit myself to my cause, then why will anyone else bother?
If we don’t care about stuff, and live for our time, then we stuff it all up for our kids; if you are a people person this should affect you - if not then the thought of the destruction of entire species for the benefit of your short life should appall you, and if neither of those things affect you then perhaps you aren’t worth having on this planet.
So we SHOULD be doing something to positively effect our future world, or at least to stop it getting worse.
But we all allow ourselves our little misgivings… i use a computer too much, i drive a car for a laugh sometimes, i buy from tesco…
The only thing that can completely satisfy maintaining the status quo is to exist without consuming… and unless everyone does that, things will only get worse.
There will never be enough education or … just care… in the world to make everyone see that we are fucking everything up, before its too late, especially as more and more people are either being born into a world of destructive growth (starting to consume more resources, lacking education about how this affects everything) or being born into families that do know or are aware but simply don’t give a flying fuck. Sadly these numbers are increased exponentially - it might sound classist or up-my-self but I believe idiocy breeds idiocy… so, yes, if i’m brutally frank i dont believe what I might call a ‘chav’ family (i use that term loosely, so please dont be offended if you consider yourself a chav - if you are rreading this far you have removed yourself from my definition) - they dont give a shit, they buy the cheapest shit from the worst vendors, then they reproduce too much because it gives them benefits to live on (ok, or maybe they just want big families), and all their kids grow up adopting the same non-caring ways - but now there are more than double the amount (2.4 children, right?), so this number increases ever more.
anyway that was a slight tangent.
my point here is that the people who care are always going to be outnumbered by those that dont, to an ever increasing degree.
whats the point?
if i know i can never achieve my goals of saving stuff… what is my purpose?
If i choose to selfishly exist, and use up resources then i fail at morals.
If i choose to carry on fighting, or fight more then i will piss people off (ok, not so bothered about that to be honest, take me for what i am), and nothing will get better… it may be temporarily slowed, but ultimately i fail, and so does everyone else who fights. fail at life goal.
If i dont fight, but do everything i can to prevent myself causing damage, then i go and be a monk or hermit or something - i fail at my other life goal, which is simply (ha!) to find Love, be in Love, Love and be Loved. (so yes, i do care about people, but i rather hope that the person i end up in a happy relationship with is of the same thinking as me..)
If i seek only Love then I fail at morals, because somehow I have to break my morals to achieve it (consume… travel… etc…)
so… i fail, whatever i do?
i was gonna rant about people screwing other people over. but i have lost the will to whatvere… type/think/compose sentences.
i feel like i’m going mad.